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wind power without batteries
Date: Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:14 pm. By: JSoar
All I really want to do is to heat water, for domestic hot water and some room heating in the winter. There isn't much sun around here most of the time, but there is a lot of wind.
I have had a little experience with small wind generators and know that the battery issues add cost and complexity, making small scale wind power hard to justify.
Are there any wind generators around the 1000 watt or higher range that don't need batteries for storage, where I can just run the electrical power from the generator to a heating element?
Thanks in advance.
wind power without batteries
Date: Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:47 pm. By: Anthony Matonak
JSoar wrote: ....
Are there any wind generators around the 1000 watt or higher range that don't need batteries for storage, where I can just run the electrical power from the generator to a heating element?
All of them. Wind generators don't need batteries.
Anthony
wind power without batteries
Date: Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:44 pm. By: DJ
JSoar wrote:
All I really want to do is to heat water, for domestic hot water and some room heating in the winter. There isn't much sun around here most of the time, but there is a lot of wind.
Now, to be fair, a 4 foot baseboard rad draws no less than 1000 watts when running. A typical electric water heater draws over 4000.
You're asking alot from that wind turbine...
Are there any wind generators around the 1000 watt or higher range that don't need batteries for storage, where I can just run the electrical power from the generator to a heating element?
Certainly, you can. And as another poster mentioned, pretty much any of them will do it. The trick will be to have the amount of electricity generated actually *do* anything noticable.
DJ
wind power without batteries
Date: Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:19 pm. By: FukUSpamer@fukspamer.com
I am using permanent magnet motor 3 phase 640Volts and 25 Amps with 10 ft. propeller, When it runs at 200 RPM it generates 128-130 Volts that I cycle out to 110Volts with voltage controller, and use this 110 Volts to heat my water heater, I have 2 water heaters and it works pretty good. Water heaters are also connected with utility power in case no wind. Once water temperature reach the desired setting it disconnect the power to heating elements and divert the power to dummy load that I have in garage to heat up my garage. I have noticed my utility bill is reduced to pretty decent level since I added this setup.
My next project is to add another wind generator that supplys power to my airconditioning and heating system and that is a tough one. :-)
wind power without batteries
Date: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:02 am. By: Solar Flare
Not controllable. Pure water has an almost infinite resistance. Dirty water has low resistance.
Try it. Put your eletrodes into some water and then add some sodium bicarbonate and watch the short circuit.
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as said, any. If you wish you could dispense with the heating element and pass the electricity straight through the water.
NT
wind power without batteries
Date: Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:47 pm. By: Guest
JSoar wrote:
All I really want to do is to heat water, for domestic hot water and some room heating in the winter. There isn't much sun around here most of the time, but there is a lot of wind.
I have had a little experience with small wind generators and know that the battery issues add cost and complexity, making small scale wind power hard to justify.
Are there any wind generators around the 1000 watt or higher range that don't need batteries for storage, where I can just run the electrical power from the generator to a heating element?
Thanks in advance.
as said, any. If you wish you could dispense with the heating element and pass the electricity straight through the water.
Immersion heaters in UK are normally 3kW, some a bit less, and take 60-90 mins to fully heat a tank from cold. If we use say 1.5 tanks of hot a day, (1.3hrs x 3kW), then you'd need about 3kW x 1.3/24 = 160 watts average throughout your 24 hr period.
NT
wind power without batteries
Date: Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:19 pm. By: Ecnerwal
In article , "JSoar" wrote:
All I really want to do is to heat water, for domestic hot water and some room heating in the winter. There isn't much sun around here most of the time, but there is a lot of wind.
Then skip electricity. Making hot water directly from wind can be done quite well by stirring a tank of water (a turbulence heater). Look up "heat equivalent of work" or "calorimiter" for the basic idea.
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wind power without batteries
Date: Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:40 pm. By: John Smith
Yes there are hundreds of 3 mega watt ones here where I live and you can plug your heater directly into them (via the grid)
JSoar wrote:
All I really want to do is to heat water, for domestic hot water and some room heating in the winter. There isn't much sun around here most of the time, but there is a lot of wind.
I have had a little experience with small wind generators and know that the battery issues add cost and complexity, making small scale wind power hard to justify.
Are there any wind generators around the 1000 watt or higher range that don't need batteries for storage, where I can just run the electrical power from the generator to a heating element?
Thanks in advance.
wind power without batteries
Date: Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:32 pm. By: Doug Simpson
Visit otherpower.com and you'll see a home built wind generator that produces several thousand watts in a good wind. . .
JSoar wrote:
All I really want to do is to heat water, for domestic hot water and some room heating in the winter. There isn't much sun around here most of the time, but there is a lot of wind.
I have had a little experience with small wind generators and know that the battery issues add cost and complexity, making small scale wind power hard to justify.
Are there any wind generators around the 1000 watt or higher range that don't need batteries for storage, where I can just run the electrical power from the generator to a heating element?
Thanks in advance.
wind power without batteries
Date: Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:53 pm. By: Innovate808
Goto www.futurenergy.co.uk and buy a 1000W turbine. Use low voltage heating elements, or a 1KW resistive air heating dump load with them to get heat without batteries...these are really cheap turbines...
"JSoar" wrote in message
All I really want to do is to heat water, for domestic hot water and some room heating in the winter. There isn't much sun around here most of the time, but there is a lot of wind.
I have had a little experience with small wind generators and know that the battery issues add cost and complexity, making small scale wind power hard to justify.
Are there any wind generators around the 1000 watt or higher range that don't need batteries for storage, where I can just run the electrical power from the generator to a heating element?
Thanks in advance.
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