Home-Made Power
Oil, coal, hydrogen, fuel cells, hybrid cars, renewables, geothermal, economical growth
Being that Toronto is just about right in the east/west middle of Ontario I think you could decipher that one quite easily.
Would a BASICA programme listing help?
LOL
wrote in message
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:47:54 -0500, "boubou" pamos@removecogeco.ca wrote:
south eastern ontario As in east of Toronto, or West of Toronto?
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:03:46 -0500, " Solar Flare" wrote:
Being that Toronto is just about right in the east/west middle of Ontario I think you could decipher that one quite easily.
Would a BASICA programme listing help?
LOL
nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca> wrote in message On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:47:54 -0500, "boubou" pamos@removecogeco.ca wrote:
south eastern ontario As in east of Toronto, or West of Toronto?
Lots of people devide southern Ontario East West at somewhere between
Woodstock and Kitchener. Others make the devide at Milton.
I consider Kitchener to be Mid-Western Ontario, and from London to Windsor South Western. Where Eastern (particularly South Eastern) starts is kinda open to interpretation..
Anyway, if he's out along the St Laurence - between say Ajax and Kingston, right about now, with a reasonably insulated 2X6 construction (almost by default less than 30 year old) home his interior RH WILL be over 30% unless he's got his windows open and the furnace running a lot.Likely over 40.
Maybe. I have my humidifier started up and set at 35% but it can't keep up in the cold weather ans eventually sinks down to about 25% at the end of the winter.
wrote in message
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:03:46 -0500, " Solar Flare" sf.lare@hotmail.invalid> wrote:
Being that Toronto is just about right in the east/west middle of Ontario I think you could decipher that one quite easily.
Would a BASICA programme listing help?
LOL
nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca> wrote in message On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:47:54 -0500, "boubou" pamos@removecogeco.ca wrote:
south eastern ontario As in east of Toronto, or West of Toronto?
Lots of people devide southern Ontario East West at somewhere between Woodstock and Kitchener. Others make the devide at Milton.
I consider Kitchener to be Mid-Western Ontario, and from London to Windsor South Western. Where Eastern (particularly South Eastern) starts is kinda open to interpretation..
Anyway, if he's out along the St Laurence - between say Ajax and Kingston, right about now, with a reasonably insulated 2X6 construction (almost by default less than 30 year old) home his interior RH WILL be over 30% unless he's got his windows open and the furnace running a lot.Likely over 40.
eastern ontario as in Kingston.
" Solar Flare" wrote in message
Maybe. I have my humidifier started up and set at 35% but it can't keep up in the cold weather ans eventually sinks down to about 25% at the end of the winter.
nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca> wrote in message On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:03:46 -0500, " Solar Flare" sf.lare@hotmail.invalid> wrote:
Being that Toronto is just about right in the east/west middle of Ontario I think you could decipher that one quite easily.
Would a BASICA programme listing help?
LOL
nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca> wrote in message On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:47:54 -0500, "boubou" pamos@removecogeco.ca wrote:
south eastern ontario As in east of Toronto, or West of Toronto?
Lots of people devide southern Ontario East West at somewhere between Woodstock and Kitchener. Others make the devide at Milton.
I consider Kitchener to be Mid-Western Ontario, and from London to Windsor South Western. Where Eastern (particularly South Eastern) starts is kinda open to interpretation..
Anyway, if he's out along the St Laurence - between say Ajax and Kingston, right about now, with a reasonably insulated 2X6 construction (almost by default less than 30 year old) home his interior RH WILL be over 30% unless he's got his windows open and the furnace running a lot.Likely over 40.
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:28:06 -0500, "boubou" wrote:
eastern ontario as in Kingston.
" Solar Flare" wrote in message Maybe. I have my humidifier started up and set at 35% but it can't keep up in the cold weather ans eventually sinks down to about 25% at the end of the winter. I have not had the humidifier running in my house in Waterloo for over
6 years. Have not even got one installed since replacing the furnace 3 years ago. House is standard 2X4 constructed, brick veneer bottom, aluminum top 2 story built in the late seventies. Current interior RH is 39-40%. On the coldest, nastiest days my front bay window and kitchen window (still original aluminum frame dual unit - not thermopane) occaisionally get a bit damp. Otherwize, my Rehau profile vinyl framed thermopane side slider windows have never had a problem.
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 19:11:37 -0500, "boubou" wrote:
yea, but if indoor humidity is not the problem then, would it be the installation of the windows? double pane getting condensation AND ice build up when really cold "daestrom" wrote in message
" Solar Flare" wrote in message and mold... and sinus infections...and...
High humidity *could* be the OP's problem and that would lead to some other issues.
But high humidity alone would *not* lead to *FROST* on the inside of the window as the OP has. That can only happen if the inside surface of the window/frame is really cold (<32F). With a really cold frame, even 30% RH inside will condense/frost on the window (dew point for 70F and 30RH is about 37F).
Adding storm windows will help to reduce heat loss and stop the inside frame/glass from getting so cold.
daestrom
No. Installation problems would cause cold air leaks AROUND the
windows, between the window and the wall, and would drastically lower RH in the house due to infiltration of cold dry air. >
nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca wrote:
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 19:11:37 -0500, "boubou" <pamos@removecogeco.ca wrote:
yea, but if indoor humidity is not the problem then, would it be the installation of the windows? double pane getting condensation AND ice build up when really cold "daestrom" wrote in message
" Solar Flare" wrote in message
and mold... and sinus infections...and...
High humidity *could* be the OP's problem and that would lead to some other issues.
But high humidity alone would *not* lead to *FROST* on the inside of the window as the OP has. That can only happen if the inside surface of the window/frame is really cold (<32F). With a really cold frame, even 30% RH inside will condense/frost on the window (dew point for 70F and 30RH is about 37F).
Adding storm windows will help to reduce heat loss and stop the inside frame/glass from getting so cold.
daestrom
No. Installation problems would cause cold air leaks AROUND the windows, between the window and the wall, and would drastically lower RH in the house due to infiltration of cold dry air.
Huh? That makes no sense and isn't true based on
personal experience. A storm window even if it fits over just the glass, will increase the temperature of the inside glass. But, storm window typically fits just inside the outside trim or fit on top of the trim. Thus decreasing any air infiltration between the window and the frame. Storm windows can easily reduce temperature fluctuations in a house, especially those with metal framed windows.
How many kids and how often do you eat inhouse?
wrote in message
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:28:06 -0500, "boubou" pamos@removecogeco.ca wrote:
eastern ontario as in Kingston.
" Solar Flare" wrote in message Maybe. I have my humidifier started up and set at 35% but it can't keep up in the cold weather ans eventually sinks down to about 25% at the end of the winter. I have not had the humidifier running in my house in Waterloo for over 6 years. Have not even got one installed since replacing the furnace 3 years ago. House is standard 2X4 constructed, brick veneer bottom, aluminum top 2 story built in the late seventies. Current interior RH is 39-40%. On the coldest, nastiest days my front bay window and kitchen window (still original aluminum frame dual unit - not thermopane) occaisionally get a bit damp. Otherwize, my Rehau profile vinyl framed thermopane side slider windows have never had a problem.
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 01:32:50 GMT, "George E. Cawthon" wrote:
nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca wrote: On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 19:11:37 -0500, "boubou" <pamos@removecogeco.ca wrote:
yea, but if indoor humidity is not the problem then, would it be the installation of the windows? double pane getting condensation AND ice build up when really cold "daestrom" wrote in message
" Solar Flare" wrote in message
and mold... and sinus infections...and...
High humidity *could* be the OP's problem and that would lead to some other issues.
But high humidity alone would *not* lead to *FROST* on the inside of the window as the OP has. That can only happen if the inside surface of the window/frame is really cold (<32F). With a really cold frame, even 30% RH inside will condense/frost on the window (dew point for 70F and 30RH is about 37F).
Adding storm windows will help to reduce heat loss and stop the inside frame/glass from getting so cold.
daestrom
No. Installation problems would cause cold air leaks AROUND the windows, between the window and the wall, and would drastically lower RH in the house due to infiltration of cold dry air.
Huh? That makes no sense and isn't true based on personal experience. A storm window even if it fits over just the glass, will increase the temperature of the inside glass. But, storm window typically fits just inside the outside trim or fit on top of the trim. Thus decreasing any air infiltration between the window and the frame. Storm windows can easily reduce temperature fluctuations in a house, especially those with metal framed windows.
I was not talking about storm windows. The OP had asked if the (improper) installation of the windows could cause the problem. My reply was ONLY to that question. Look at the number of >> before the messages. My reply, with >> was to the part with >>>
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 20:35:15 -0500, " Solar Flare" wrote:
How many kids and how often do you eat inhouse?
Raised 2 kids in the house - they have both just recently left home, so there are only the 2 of us and one cat, and we don't eat out much.
We DO keep the house relatively cool. Setback to 16C when we are not home, and at night. New medium efficiency Tempstar furnace, gas water heater and finished basement. My wife does hang some laundry in the basement.
nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca> wrote in message On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:28:06 -0500, "boubou" pamos@removecogeco.ca wrote:
eastern ontario as in Kingston.
" Solar Flare" wrote in message Maybe. I have my humidifier started up and set at 35% but it can't keep up in the cold weather ans eventually sinks down to about 25% at the end of the winter. I have not had the humidifier running in my house in Waterloo for over 6 years. Have not even got one installed since replacing the furnace 3 years ago. House is standard 2X4 constructed, brick veneer bottom, aluminum top 2 story built in the late seventies. Current interior RH is 39-40%. On the coldest, nastiest days my front bay window and kitchen window (still original aluminum frame dual unit - not thermopane) occaisionally get a bit damp. Otherwize, my Rehau profile vinyl framed thermopane side slider windows have never had a problem.
When my kids moved out my house went dry. We eat out a fair bit and never hang wash inside. When we cook on the gas stove we always power ventilate.
I have a furnace humdifier running full out to keep the humidity at about 30%. I only get some condensation on my double glazed, non gas windows on the coldest winter days and never ice on the panes or vinyl frames.
We typically run 71F when home and after the long winter when the humidity starts to drop 72F. Lowered to 67F when not home and nightime for sleeping.
wrote in message
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 20:35:15 -0500, " Solar Flare" sf.lare@hotmail.invalid> wrote:
How many kids and how often do you eat inhouse?
Raised 2 kids in the house - they have both just recently left home, so there are only the 2 of us and one cat, and we don't eat out much.
We DO keep the house relatively cool. Setback to 16C when we are not home, and at night. New medium efficiency Tempstar furnace, gas water heater and finished basement. My wife does hang some laundry in the basement.
nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca> wrote in message On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:28:06 -0500, "boubou" pamos@removecogeco.ca wrote:
eastern ontario as in Kingston.
" Solar Flare" wrote in message Maybe. I have my humidifier started up and set at 35% but it can't keep up in the cold weather ans eventually sinks down to about 25% at the end of the winter. I have not had the humidifier running in my house in Waterloo for over 6 years. Have not even got one installed since replacing the furnace 3 years ago. House is standard 2X4 constructed, brick veneer bottom, aluminum top 2 story built in the late seventies. Current interior RH is 39-40%. On the coldest, nastiest days my front bay window and kitchen window (still original aluminum frame dual unit - not thermopane) occaisionally get a bit damp. Otherwize, my Rehau profile vinyl framed thermopane side slider windows have never had a problem.
More bottom posting confusion.
wrote in message
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 01:32:50 GMT, "George E. Cawthon" GeorgeC-Boise@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca wrote: On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 19:11:37 -0500, "boubou" pamos@removecogeco.ca wrote:
yea, but if indoor humidity is not the problem then, would it be the installation of the windows? double pane getting condensation AND ice build up when really cold "daestrom" <daestrom@NO_SPAM_HEREtwcny.rr.com wrote in message
" Solar Flare" wrote in message
and mold... and sinus infections...and...
High humidity *could* be the OP's problem and that would lead to some other issues.
But high humidity alone would *not* lead to *FROST* on the inside of the window as the OP has. That can only happen if the inside surface of the window/frame is really cold (<32F). With a really cold frame, even 30% RH inside will condense/frost on the window (dew point for 70F and 30RH is about 37F).
Adding storm windows will help to reduce heat loss and stop the inside frame/glass from getting so cold.
daestrom
No. Installation problems would cause cold air leaks AROUND the windows, between the window and the wall, and would drastically lower RH in the house due to infiltration of cold dry air.
Huh? That makes no sense and isn't true based on personal experience. A storm window even if it fits over just the glass, will increase the temperature of the inside glass. But, storm window typically fits just inside the outside trim or fit on top of the trim. Thus decreasing any air infiltration between the window and the frame. Storm windows can easily reduce temperature fluctuations in a house, especially those with metal framed windows.
I was not talking about storm windows. The OP had asked if the (improper) installation of the windows could cause the problem. My reply was ONLY to that question. Look at the number of >> before the messages. My reply, with >> was to the part with
nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca wrote:
Huh? That makes no sense and isn't true based on personal experience. A storm window even if it fits over just the glass, will increase the temperature of the inside glass. But, storm window typically fits just inside the outside trim or fit on top of the trim. Thus decreasing any air infiltration between the window and the frame. Storm windows can easily reduce temperature fluctuations in a house, especially those with metal framed windows.
I was not talking about storm windows. The OP had asked if the (improper) installation of the windows could cause the problem. My reply was ONLY to that question. Look at the number of >> before the messages. My reply, with >> was to the part with
The thread shows that you msg was in response to my comment.
Energy, oil and gas > Home-Made Power
Travelers and hotels or travel site. Flights by vacation and cars.