window getting wet from inside

nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca wrote:

On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 03:32:53 GMT, "George E. Cawthon" GeorgeC-Boise@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Pete C wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:11:06 -0500, nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca wrote:

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 18:28:28 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote:

In article , "glukane" wrote:
Hi, my house's windows gets wet in the inside all the time and sometime, it forms ice. what can i do to get rid of it?
Storm windows.
Or reduce your humidity. Should have 40% or less.
40% or less? Is that guaranteed to prevent condensation?
What's the ideal humidity between 16-21C for comfortable living?
cheers, Pete.
Look on a humidity meter. Ours says indicates normal from 50 to 75 percent. Humidity in our house usually runs between 50 and 65 percent. My wife complains anytime the humidity drops below 50 percent. And no, our windows don't get wet.
Condensation on the glass means that the glass is cold. To stop condensation increase the insulation (add more layers of glass) or increase air circulation.

George, how cold does it get where you live? Over 50% humidiy here in winter will get you mold problems and structural damage.

-25 F, but that's the extreme, low teens to zero is a fairly common low in December and January. Winters are highly variable. We have no problems with mold, no problem with structural damage. The ambient humidity varies quiet a bit though out the day and most statistics for the area (average monthly and daily highs and lows, etc.) don't provide a real picture. Natural humidity is pretty low. Weather broadcasts in the summer will often indicate a humidity level of 50 percent, but that is likely only for an hour or two with most of the day below 30 percent. This also an area of low precipitation, annual average is in the 11 inch range.

On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:51:51 -0500, "boubou" wrote:

nope, mirror doesn't fog up. Not too much humidity in the house, then what? Seems like the answer lies in the glass behing too cold....some other windows have better insulant between the two panes of glass.
Argon helps- a LITTLE bit - but thermopane basically is thermopane.

Non-conductive spacer bars help with "edge freezing", but if you are getting wet window panes and ice, your humidity - WHATEVER it is, is TOO HIGH.

even 30 % ?? wrote in message

On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:51:51 -0500, "boubou" <pamos@removecogeco.ca wrote:
nope, mirror doesn't fog up. Not too much humidity in the house, then what? Seems like the answer lies in the glass behing too cold....some other windows have better insulant between the two panes of glass.
Argon helps- a LITTLE bit - but thermopane basically is thermopane. Non-conductive spacer bars help with "edge freezing", but if you are getting wet window panes and ice, your humidity - WHATEVER it is, is TOO HIGH.

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 09:06:48 -0500, "boubou" wrote:

even 30 % ?? nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca> wrote in message On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:51:51 -0500, "boubou" <pamos@removecogeco.ca wrote:
nope, mirror doesn't fog up. Not too much humidity in the house, then what? Seems like the answer lies in the glass behing too cold....some other windows have better insulant between the two panes of glass.
Argon helps- a LITTLE bit - but thermopane basically is thermopane. Non-conductive spacer bars help with "edge freezing", but if you are getting wet window panes and ice, your humidity - WHATEVER it is, is TOO HIGH.
If at 30% you are getting condensation with thermopane windows, first

thing I would do is check your RH meter.
If it is correct, your windows may, indeed, be FUBAR.
Exactly what kind of windows, in what type of home construction, and where??????

What is the RH meter? What is FUBAR? construction: 2X6 and in Ontario, Canada wrote in message

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 09:06:48 -0500, "boubou" <pamos@removecogeco.ca wrote:
even 30 % ?? nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca> wrote in message On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:51:51 -0500, "boubou" <pamos@removecogeco.ca wrote:
nope, mirror doesn't fog up. Not too much humidity in the house, then what? Seems like the answer lies in the glass behing too cold....some other windows have better insulant between the two panes of glass.
Argon helps- a LITTLE bit - but thermopane basically is thermopane. Non-conductive spacer bars help with "edge freezing", but if you are getting wet window panes and ice, your humidity - WHATEVER it is, is TOO HIGH.
If at 30% you are getting condensation with thermopane windows, first thing I would do is check your RH meter.
If it is correct, your windows may, indeed, be FUBAR.
Exactly what kind of windows, in what type of home construction, and where??????

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:45:13 -0500, boubou wrote:

What is the RH meter?

In this context, I'd expect it has something to do with _humidity_.

What is FUBAR?

Google will give you better answers for this than you could get anywhere else.

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:45:13 -0500, "boubou" wrote:

What is the RH meter?

Relative Humidity meter - also known as Hygrometer

What is FUBAR? F'd up beyond all repair - a Naval term. construction: 2X6 With what sheathing/siding/insulation? Built when?

and in Ontario, Canada

Where in Ontario?

nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca> wrote in message On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 09:06:48 -0500, "boubou" <pamos@removecogeco.ca wrote:
even 30 % ?? nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca> wrote in message On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:51:51 -0500, "boubou" <pamos@removecogeco.ca wrote:
nope, mirror doesn't fog up. Not too much humidity in the house, then what? Seems like the answer lies in the glass behing too cold....some other windows have better insulant between the two panes of glass.
Argon helps- a LITTLE bit - but thermopane basically is thermopane. Non-conductive spacer bars help with "edge freezing", but if you are getting wet window panes and ice, your humidity - WHATEVER it is, is TOO HIGH.
If at 30% you are getting condensation with thermopane windows, first thing I would do is check your RH meter.
If it is correct, your windows may, indeed, be FUBAR.
Exactly what kind of windows, in what type of home construction, and where??????

south eastern ontario wrote in message

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:45:13 -0500, "boubou" <pamos@removecogeco.ca wrote:
What is the RH meter?
Relative Humidity meter - also known as Hygrometer What is FUBAR? F'd up beyond all repair - a Naval term. construction: 2X6 With what sheathing/siding/insulation? Built when?
and in Ontario, Canada
Where in Ontario?
nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca> wrote in message On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 09:06:48 -0500, "boubou" <pamos@removecogeco.ca wrote:
even 30 % ?? nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca> wrote in message On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:51:51 -0500, "boubou" <pamos@removecogeco.ca wrote:
nope, mirror doesn't fog up. Not too much humidity in the house, then what? Seems like the answer lies in the glass behing too cold....some other windows have better insulant between the two panes of glass.
Argon helps- a LITTLE bit - but thermopane basically is thermopane. Non-conductive spacer bars help with "edge freezing", but if you are getting wet window panes and ice, your humidity - WHATEVER it is, is TOO HIGH.
If at 30% you are getting condensation with thermopane windows, first thing I would do is check your RH meter.
If it is correct, your windows may, indeed, be FUBAR.
Exactly what kind of windows, in what type of home construction, and where??????

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:47:54 -0500, boubou wrote:

south eastern ontario

Please don't top-post, putting your answer before what you're answering makes the conversation impossible to follow.

oh, sorry...didn't realise.
"Dave Hinz" wrote in message

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:47:54 -0500, boubou wrote: south eastern ontario
Please don't top-post, putting your answer before what you're answering makes the conversation impossible to follow.

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:52:30 -0500, boubou wrote:

oh, sorry...didn't realise.

Nice.
<plonk>

LOL
Another Master of conversation plonks to get attention his mommy never gave him.
"Dave Hinz" wrote in message

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:52:30 -0500, boubou pamos@removecogeco.ca> wrote: oh, sorry...didn't realise.
Nice.
plonk

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:11:17 -0500, " Solar Flare" wrote:

"Dave Hinz" wrote in message On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:52:30 -0500, boubou pamos@removecogeco.ca> wrote: oh, sorry...didn't realise.
Nice.
plonk
LOL
Another Master of conversation plonks to get attention his mommy never gave him.

As I recall you were plonking people left and right not so long ago. I remember you plonking me under at least two of your nyms. Perhaps memory loss is one of your afflictions eh Gymmy Bob, or should we call you Mr. Pot? http://tinyurl.com/c7495
Wayne

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:25:10 GMT, wmbjk wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:11:17 -0500, " Solar Flare"
Another Master of conversation plonks to get attention his mommy never gave him.
As I recall you were plonking people left and right not so long ago. I remember you plonking me under at least two of your nyms. Perhaps memory loss is one of your afflictions eh Gymmy Bob, or should we call you Mr. Pot? http://tinyurl.com/c7495

Ssssh, he thinks he's not recognizable.

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:47:54 -0500, "boubou" wrote:

south eastern ontario As in east of Toronto, or West of Toronto? nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca> wrote in message On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:45:13 -0500, "boubou" <pamos@removecogeco.ca wrote:
What is the RH meter?
Relative Humidity meter - also known as Hygrometer What is FUBAR? F'd up beyond all repair - a Naval term. construction: 2X6 With what sheathing/siding/insulation? Built when?
and in Ontario, Canada
Where in Ontario?
nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca> wrote in message On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 09:06:48 -0500, "boubou" <pamos@removecogeco.ca wrote:
even 30 % ?? nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca> wrote in message On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:51:51 -0500, "boubou" <pamos@removecogeco.ca wrote:
nope, mirror doesn't fog up. Not too much humidity in the house, then what? Seems like the answer lies in the glass behing too cold....some other windows have better insulant between the two panes of glass.
Argon helps- a LITTLE bit - but thermopane basically is thermopane. Non-conductive spacer bars help with "edge freezing", but if you are getting wet window panes and ice, your humidity - WHATEVER it is, is TOO HIGH.
If at 30% you are getting condensation with thermopane windows, first thing I would do is check your RH meter.
If it is correct, your windows may, indeed, be FUBAR.
Exactly what kind of windows, in what type of home construction, and where??????