Warming Faithful Shy Away From Debate

July 4 2008

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/column_warmers_call_off_debate/

CLIVE Hamilton had an excellent plan last month when Charles Sturt University made this green preacher its Professor of Public Ethics.

"Over the last 20 or 30 years . . . academics have been less willing to engage in public debate," the former Australia Institute boss said.

That had to change, and by Gaia, Hamilton was the man to change it.

So how odd to see Hamilton a fortnight later telling a popular discussion website, On Line Opinion, he's no longer going to debate there.

"I will not be contributing any further pieces to the site because it has been captured by climate change denialists," he huffed.

Hamilton conceded he actually didn't know the science he's defended: "I do not presume to engage in arguments about climate science because I do not have the expertise to do so without making a fool of myself."

But, as with other such preachers, this didn't stop him from vilifying the "denialists" who disagreed with him as "loopy and deceptive" - the sort who'd accuse "the Royal Family (of) being in cahoots with global Jewry".

Actually, Hamilton's retreat is part of a pattern.

Al Gore, the Great Profit of Doom himself, now bans journalists from his lectures. The ABC's chief science presenter, warming believer Robyn Williams, refuses to have on the former head of the National Climate Centre, William Kininmonth, because this sceptic allegedly can't understand climate.

And Greenpeace says "we no longer debate people who don't accept the scientific reality of anthropogenic climate change".

Better, Wellington Shire Council is dropping a plan to halt development on a part of Ninety Mile Beach it claims could be drowned by rising seas unleashed by global warming.

Residents had said its scaremongering was driving down property prices and they might sue if it didn't stop.

What a shame the council dodged that debate, too, given what happens when courts start checking evidence.

See, in Britain last year, a judge ruled that Gore's An Inconvenient Truth told at least seven exaggerations or untruths on global warming.

One, of course, was his claim of big rises in sea levels, so no wonder debate is banned. --

Warmest Regards
Bonzo
The Fourth Report of the IPCC might just as well decree the suppression of all climatology textbooks, and replace them in our schools with press communiqués. ... Day after day, the same mantra - that 'the Earth is warming up' - is churned out in all its forms. As 'the ice melts' and 'sea level rises' the Apocalypse looms ever nearer! Without realizing it, or perhaps without wishing to, the average citizen in bamboozled, lobotomized, and lulled into mindless acceptance. .... Non-believers in the greenhouse scenario are in the position of those long ago who doubted the existence of God ... Marcel Leroux
It should be abundantly clear by now that the AGW hypothesis is contradicted by the facts/measurements/observations and should therefore be abandoned and be substituted by a hypothesis which better matches the facts. - Hans Labohm

Expect More Droughts, Heavy Downpours, Excessive Heat, And Intense Hurricanes Due To Global Warming, NOAA
ScienceDaily (June 20, 2008) - The U.S. Climate Change Science Program and the Subcommittee on Global Change Research has released a scientific assessment that provides the first comprehensive analysis of observed and projected changes in weather and climate extremes in North America and U.S. territories. Among the major findings reported in this assessment are that droughts, heavy downpours, excessive heat, and intense hurricanes are likely to become more commonplace as humans continue to increase the atmospheric concentrations of heat-trapping greenhouse gases.
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change previously evaluated extreme weather and climate events on a global basis in this same context. However, there has not been a specific assessment across North America prior to this report.
The report is based on scientific evidence that a warming world will be accompanied by changes in the intensity, duration, frequency, and geographic extent of weather and climate extremes.
"This report addresses one of the most frequently asked questions about global warming: what will happen to weather and climate extremes? This synthesis and assessment product examines this question across North America and concludes that we are now witnessing and will increasingly experience more extreme weather and climate events," said report co-chair Tom Karl, Ph.D., director of NOAA's National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C.
"We will continue to see some of the biggest impacts of global warming coming from changes in weather and climate extremes," said report co-chair Gerry Meehl, Ph.D., of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colo. "This report focuses for the first time on changes of extremes specifically over North America."
Global warming of the past 50 years is due primarily to human-induced increases in heat-trapping gases, according to the report. Many types of extreme weather and climate event changes have been observed during this time period and continued changes are projected for this century. Specific future projections include:
Abnormally hot days and nights, along with heat waves, are very likely to become more common. Cold nights are very likely to become less common.
Sea ice extent is expected to continue to decrease and may even disappear in the Arctic Ocean in summer in coming decades.
Precipitation, on average, is likely to be less frequent but more intense.
Droughts are likely to become more frequent and severe in some regions.
Hurricanes will likely have increased precipitation and wind.
The strongest cold-season storms in the Atlantic and Pacific are likely to produce stronger winds and higher extreme wave heights.
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, an agency of the U.S. Commerce Department, is dedicated to enhancing economic security and national safety through the prediction and research of weather and climate-related events and information service delivery for transportation, and by providing environmental stewardship of our nation's coastal and marine resources. NOAA plays a key role in the Climate Change Science Program, which is responsible for coordinating and integrating climate research, observations, decision support, and communications of 13 federal departments and agencies. The National Center for Atmospheric Research investigates climate, weather, and other topics related to the atmosphere. It is sponsored by the National Science Foundation and managed by a nonprofit consortium of universities, the University Corporation for Atmospheric Research.
The full CCSP 3.3 report, Weather and Climate Extremes in a Changing Climate, and a summary FAQ brochure are available online.

"V for Vendicar" wrote in message

Expect More Droughts, Heavy Downpours, Excessive Heat, And Intense Hurricanes Due To Global Warming, NOAA

ROTFLMAO

QUOTE: If only V for Vacuous had bothered to read the actual data contained in a June 2008 report from the U.S. Climate Change Science Program.
A sampling of what the report reveals includes:
Hurricanes declining, no long term increases in drought
- There have been no observed changes in the occurrence of tornadoes or thunderstorms - There have been no long-term increases in strong East Coast winter storms (ECWS), called Nor'easters
- There are no long-term trends in either heat waves or cold spells, though there are trends within shorter time periods in the overall record.
But all of the above appear to be INCREASING in unverified climate models. Computer models predictions are not evidence


Comic Relief, Newsweek's Begley, Global Warming Is a Cause of This Year's Extreme Weather
EPW Blog
June 29, 2008

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/3708

QUOTE: If only Begley had bothered to read the actual data contained in a June 2008 report from the U.S. Climate Change Science Program. A sampling of what the report reveals includes: Hurricanes declining, no long term increases in drought - There have been no observed changes in the occurrence of tornadoes or thunderstorms - There have been no long-term increases in strong East Coast winter storms (ECWS), called Nor'easters - There are no long-term trends in either heat waves or cold spells, though there are trends within shorter time periods in the overall record. But all of the above appear to be INCREASING in unverified climate models. Computer models predictions are not evidence

QUOTE: The warmest year, 1998, did not have Midwest floods anywhere near the magnitude of those in 1993 and 2008.


Note: here are 3 quick rebuttals to this Newsweek's latest silliness.

1) Sharon Begley of Newsweek unhinged. She really is trying to outdo her previous shoddy reporting. Her track record for climate reporting is comical. See: Newsweek's Climate Editorial Screed Violates Basic Standards of Journalism - August 2007

2) If only Begley had bothered to read the actual data contained in a June 2008 report from the U.S. Climate Change Science Program. A sampling of what the report reveals includes: Hurricanes declining, no long term increases in drought - There have been no observed changes in the occurrence of tornadoes or thunderstorms - There have been no long-term increases in strong East Coast winter storms (ECWS), called Nor'easters - There are no long-term trends in either heat waves or cold spells, though there are trends within shorter time periods in the overall record. But all of the above appear to be INCREASING in unverified climate models. Computer models predictions are not evidence. (For full report)

3) If only Begley had bothered to read this report from a meteorologist: Midwest Floods and 'Completely Unjustified' Climate Change Fear Mongering - By Mike Smith is a certified consulting meteorologist and a Fellow of the American Meteorological Society He is CEO of WeatherData Services, Inc., an AccuWeather Company, based in Wichita.) Excerpt: The EDF proclaimed: Did Humans Cause the Midwest Flooding? In the piece, EDF's James Wang writes, "Another element [of the Midwest floods] may be global warming, which increases the probability of extreme weather events like torrential rain." [...] And, it leaves us to ponder a key question: Does the science justify tying the Midwest floods to Global Warming? My answer? An emphatic "no." [.] The contention that "warming" is linked to catastrophic Midwest floods is relatively easy to test. Here's how: What were the temperatures during this and similar floods in the region? When the atmosphere creates weather it is responding to the conditions that exist in the lower atmosphere at the time of the event - temperatures, pressures, humidity, etc. [...] The record Midwest floods of 1993 and 2008 occurred after periods of rapid cooling. The warmest year, 1998, did not have Midwest floods anywhere near the magnitude of those in 1993 and 2008. It is my judgment the attempt to link the 2008 floods to Global "Warming" is completely unjustified. (Full report)
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Warmest Regards
Bonzo
"Attributing global climate change to human CO2 production is akin to trying to diagnose an automotive problem by ignoring the engine (analogous to the Sun in the climate system) and the transmission (water vapour) and instead focusing entirely, not on one nut on a rear wheel, which would be analogous to total CO2, but on one thread on that nut, which represents the human contribution." Dr. Timothy Ball, Chairman of the Natural Resources Stewardship Project (NRSP.com), Former Professor Of Climatology, University of Winnipeg>