These groups will be irrelevant in a few months

Are you guys aware of Steorn (www.steorn.net)? They expect to be selling their first products by April of next year. They have tested motors up to 550bhp in size.
All other forms of energy will become irrelevant as soon as they can be replaced by the Steorn devices.
Take a look at the forum at www.steorn.net and please add your comments.

"Dan Reyes" wrote in message

All other forms of energy will become irrelevant as soon as they can be replaced by the Steorn devices.
When there is a distributor where I can order my operable generators, please

come back here and give us the particulars. Until then, I have zero interest.
Vaughn

hoo boy yet another perpetual motion device!
why not dump this drivel over at alt.energy.over-unity we've been keeping your type penned up over there for decades.........
Dan Reyes wrote:

Are you guys aware of Steorn (www.steorn.net)? They expect to be selling their first products by April of next year. They have tested motors up to 550bhp in size.
All other forms of energy will become irrelevant as soon as they can be replaced by the Steorn devices.
Take a look at the forum at www.steorn.net and please add your comments.

On alt.energy.homepower, in , "Dan Reyes" wrote:

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He's using an "anonymous" mail2news gateway.
Which means he's a complete loser and you can't trust a word he posts.
(That's why almost everyone kills all posts from them.)
"Anonymous" mail2news gateways are toys for trolls and don't protect anyone who is actually hiding from anyone dangerous.
People who are hiding from dangerous people don't announce the fact that they are hiding.
Or trust script-kitty trolls to protect them.
Duh.
Alan
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On 11 Nov 2006 18:27:10 -0000, Dan Reyes wrote:

Are you guys aware of Steorn (www.steorn.net)? They expect to be selling their first products by April of next year. They have tested motors up to 550bhp in size.
All other forms of energy will become irrelevant as soon as they can be replaced by the Steorn devices.
Take a look at the forum at www.steorn.net and please add your comments.

This will offcource not happend.
By april, they will cough up some lame excuse, and say october - DEFINATELY etc.
I expect that you will post an appology on theese groups on new years eve 2007/2008.
-- SEE YA !!! Trygve Lillefosse AKA - Malawi, The Fisher King

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 20:08:32 +0100, Trygve Lillefosse wrote:

On 11 Nov 2006 18:27:10 -0000, Dan Reyes wrote:
Are you guys aware of Steorn (www.steorn.net)? They expect to be selling their first products by April of next year. They have tested motors up to 550bhp in size.
All other forms of energy will become irrelevant as soon as they can be replaced by the Steorn devices.
Take a look at the forum at www.steorn.net and please add your comments.
This will offcource not happend.
By april, they will cough up some lame excuse, and say october - DEFINATELY etc.
I expect that you will post an appology on theese groups on new years eve 2007/2008.

You won't have to wait that long. If they don't go public by the end of April, and have real products for sale, I'll apologize then.

Trust me, these newsgroups will survive. The next announcement will be an oil company bought out the invention for billions dollars and buried it.
--
"Dan Reyes" wrote in message

On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 20:08:32 +0100, Trygve Lillefosse wrote:
You won't have to wait that long. If they don't go public by the end of April, and have real products for sale, I'll apologize then.

Landline wrote:

Trust me, these newsgroups will survive.

I think spammers like that hydrogen guy and flame enthusiasts are more of a threat to these newsgroups than perpetual motion.
The more noise on the newsgroup, the less use they are and the fewer the people who will be willing to wade through the swine looking for a few pearls.
Anthony

Landline wrote:

Trust me, these newsgroups will survive. The next announcement will be an oil company bought out the invention for billions dollars and buried it.

It has all the hallmarks of such a scam being attempted.
I jst love he forum with all those independent people so ernestly discussing this perpetual motion machine.

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:51:46 +1100, Terryc wrote:

Landline wrote: Trust me, these newsgroups will survive. The next announcement will be an oil company bought out the invention for billions dollars and buried it.
It has all the hallmarks of such a scam being attempted.
I jst love he forum with all those independent people so ernestly discussing this perpetual motion machine.

By the way, Steorn is hosting a party in Dublin on Monday November 28 at 8pm. The venue hasn't been chosen, but it will be at a hotel in the centre of the city.
Drinks are on Steorn, and you need only be a forum member to go. If you are interested, go to www.steorn.net, register for the forum, and put a message on the 'party' thread, that you are going. You don't need to give any personal information to register for the forum or the party.
It looks like a number of people from the US, UK, and Europe will be attending.

It has all the hallmarks of such a scam being attempted.

Actually, it does not.

Dan Reyes wrote:

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:51:46 +1100, Terryc wrote:
It has all the hallmarks of such a scam being attempted.
Actually, it does not.

It's an over unity device so, since these can't work, it must be a scam. It's similar to all other over unity devices in this way.
Anthony

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:39:50 +0000, Anthony Matonak wrote:

Dan Reyes wrote: On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:51:46 +1100, Terryc wrote:
It has all the hallmarks of such a scam being attempted.
Actually, it does not.
It's an over unity device so, since these can't work, it must be a scam. It's similar to all other over unity devices in this way.

Granted it's not likely, but it's not as if present-day physics has all the answers. You hear about things like 'zero-point energy'; maybe the Steorn device is tapping that somehow.
If it's a scam or hoax, none of the skeptics on the forum has seen the slightest evidence for one - Steorn isn't asking for money, they are a real company, their CEO is a real engineer, etc.
They claim to have tested the device for three years, so whatever it is, it's not due to a mistake.

Dan Reyes wrote:

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:39:50 +0000, Anthony Matonak wrote: Dan Reyes wrote: On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:51:46 +1100, Terryc wrote:
It has all the hallmarks of such a scam being attempted.
Actually, it does not.
It's an over unity device so, since these can't work, it must be a scam. It's similar to all other over unity devices in this way.
Granted it's not likely, but it's not as if present-day physics has all the answers. You hear about things like 'zero-point energy'; maybe the Steorn device is tapping that somehow.
If it's a scam or hoax, none of the skeptics on the forum has seen the slightest evidence for one - Steorn isn't asking for money, they are a real company, their CEO is a real engineer, etc.
They claim to have tested the device for three years, so whatever it is, it's not due to a mistake.

I'd like to point out that they don't claim tobe able to amke 'free energy'.
Their claim is to have made a generator with > 100% efficiency. I won't stop right now to argue over that claim since it's moot to my next point.
Anyway what that means is that it's just a bit more efficient than normal generators. It still needs an energy input to run it. No free lunch. No perpetual motion.
Graham

You "hear about" UFO's and the Loch Ness monster also.
That does not make them real
------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Dan Reyes" wrote in message

On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:39:50 +0000, Anthony Matonak wrote:
Granted it's not likely, but it's not as if present-day physics has all the answers. You hear about things like 'zero-point energy'; maybe the Steorn device is tapping that somehow.
If it's a scam or hoax, none of the skeptics on the forum has seen the slightest evidence for one - Steorn isn't asking for money, they are a real company, their CEO is a real engineer, etc.
They claim to have tested the device for three years, so whatever it is, it's not due to a mistake.

Uhm.. then what does it mean when he claims that it is over 100% efficient?
That, by definition, is a perpetual motion machine. Which makes it a scam.
------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Eeyore" wrote in message

Dan Reyes wrote:

I'd like to point out that they don't claim tobe able to amke 'free energy'.
Their claim is to have made a generator with > 100% efficiency. I won't stop right now to argue over that claim since it's moot to my next point.
Anyway what that means is that it's just a bit more efficient than normal generators. It still needs an energy input to run it. No free lunch. No perpetual motion.
Graham