Solar Energy Use Is Draining Our Sun -- Conservation Movemen

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Solar Energy Is Draining Our Sun
Arrays of solar panels will only contribute to the depletion of the sun's energy.
Sol Long Mr. Sun
PLANET EARTH-- With gas hovering at over a dollar per litre, the search is on for other viable sources of energy. We are rapidly exhausting Earth's sources of fossil fuels and there is a desperate need for an energy alternative. A perennial favourite is solar power, but its utilization could come at an enormous cost to future generations.
Solar panels are already draining our sun of vital energy. As more panels are set up, more solar energy is removed from future generations. Without realizing it, the lifetime of our life-giving star is being threatened by the careless absorption of precious solar radiation. And if every Joe American lined his roof with solar panels, we'd suck the energy out of the sun faster than college freshmen on a free beer keg. That energy model just isn't sustainable.
And it's getting worse. Automobile producers are already developing hybrid vehicles that will capture the sun's rays to power our cars, trucks, and SUVs. Scientists and researchers continue to find new ways to harness the sun's rays and improve the efficiency of solar-powered cells. But what thought is being put into the long-term effects of this excessive solar power use?
Every day, solar energy is frittered away on solar-powered flashlights, solar-powered garden lanterns, and even solar-powered tanning machines--and we presume that there is a limitless supply of sunshine to power these devices. But at the present rate of consumption, solar energy reserves will most certainly be depleted a couple billion years sooner than expected, and then we'll all be sitting in the dark, wondering how we're going to run our stereos, hairdryers, and Vitamix machines.
Unfortunately, there aren't any solar conservation movements to communicate the necessity to protect and ration the burning of the sun's not-so-everlasting power. The heat should be on to find other viable sources of energy, or at the very least, slow down our solar energy consumption so that our sun can continue to grow our food, light our planet, and heat our pools for many years to come.
Solar energy is a clean alternative to oil, coal, and natural gas, but we must realize that there are limits. If we tap into the sun's radiation with our eyes closed, we risk the untimely depletion of its reserves, and then we'll all be sorry.

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Supposedly the sun will only last another one million years so the controlled fusion people don't have much time left.
Bret Cahill

LMAO. How dumb is that? You are considering the issue of sustainability for the SUN?? Ok... consider this. Installing any number of solar arrays and pannels will not affect the rate of nuclear reaction that goes in the sun. The sun's life is fixed and unchangeable (to the extent that we can affect).
The sun will last a few more million of years. I believe that to be time enough to devise new methods of energy generation... meanwhile we gotta deal with our gas issue: Burning more gas could polute the planet enough to bring way bigger problems before the sun ever dies down. And gas that north america or europe has access to .. is nonexistent. So we'd better get our asses on the sunshine and live on. It will not affect the sun's energy stock. Good day.
PS. Was this a joke? Laughed at first.. but much too stupid to be seriously entertaining.
Sparky @zig-zag.net wrote:

http://www.thetoque.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=323&Itemid=1
Solar Energy Is Draining Our Sun
Arrays of solar panels will only contribute to the depletion of the sun's energy.
Sol Long Mr. Sun
PLANET EARTH-- With gas hovering at over a dollar per litre, the search is on for other viable sources of energy. We are rapidly exhausting Earth's sources of fossil fuels and there is a desperate need for an energy alternative. A perennial favourite is solar power, but its utilization could come at an enormous cost to future generations.
Solar panels are already draining our sun of vital energy. As more panels are set up, more solar energy is removed from future generations. Without realizing it, the lifetime of our life-giving star is being threatened by the careless absorption of precious solar radiation. And if every Joe American lined his roof with solar panels, we'd suck the energy out of the sun faster than college freshmen on a free beer keg. That energy model just isn't sustainable.
And it's getting worse. Automobile producers are already developing hybrid vehicles that will capture the sun's rays to power our cars, trucks, and SUVs. Scientists and researchers continue to find new ways to harness the sun's rays and improve the efficiency of solar-powered cells. But what thought is being put into the long-term effects of this excessive solar power use?
Every day, solar energy is frittered away on solar-powered flashlights, solar-powered garden lanterns, and even solar-powered tanning machines--and we presume that there is a limitless supply of sunshine to power these devices. But at the present rate of consumption, solar energy reserves will most certainly be depleted a couple billion years sooner than expected, and then we'll all be sitting in the dark, wondering how we're going to run our stereos, hairdryers, and Vitamix machines.
Unfortunately, there aren't any solar conservation movements to communicate the necessity to protect and ration the burning of the sun's not-so-everlasting power. The heat should be on to find other viable sources of energy, or at the very least, slow down our solar energy consumption so that our sun can continue to grow our food, light our planet, and heat our pools for many years to come.
Solar energy is a clean alternative to oil, coal, and natural gas, but we must realize that there are limits. If we tap into the sun's radiation with our eyes closed, we risk the untimely depletion of its reserves, and then we'll all be sorry.

This should sum up the way I feel about the BS that you post!
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Solar Energy Is Draining Our Sun
Arrays of solar panels will only contribute to the depletion of the sun's energy.
Sol Long Mr. Sun
PLANET EARTH-- With gas hovering at over a dollar per litre, the search is on for other viable sources of energy. We are rapidly exhausting Earth's sources of fossil fuels and there is a desperate need for an energy alternative. A perennial favourite is solar power, but its utilization could come at an enormous cost to future generations.
Solar panels are already draining our sun of vital energy. As more panels are set up, more solar energy is removed from future generations. Without realizing it, the lifetime of our life-giving star is being threatened by the careless absorption of precious solar radiation. And if every Joe American lined his roof with solar panels, we'd suck the energy out of the sun faster than college freshmen on a free beer keg. That energy model just isn't sustainable.
And it's getting worse. Automobile producers are already developing hybrid vehicles that will capture the sun's rays to power our cars, trucks, and SUVs. Scientists and researchers continue to find new ways to harness the sun's rays and improve the efficiency of solar-powered cells. But what thought is being put into the long-term effects of this excessive solar power use?
Every day, solar energy is frittered away on solar-powered flashlights, solar-powered garden lanterns, and even solar-powered tanning machines--and we presume that there is a limitless supply of sunshine to power these devices. But at the present rate of consumption, solar energy reserves will most certainly be depleted a couple billion years sooner than expected, and then we'll all be sitting in the dark, wondering how we're going to run our stereos, hairdryers, and Vitamix machines.
Unfortunately, there aren't any solar conservation movements to communicate the necessity to protect and ration the burning of the sun's not-so-everlasting power. The heat should be on to find other viable sources of energy, or at the very least, slow down our solar energy consumption so that our sun can continue to grow our food, light our planet, and heat our pools for many years to come.
Solar energy is a clean alternative to oil, coal, and natural gas, but we must realize that there are limits. If we tap into the sun's radiation with our eyes closed, we risk the untimely depletion of its reserves, and then we'll all be sorry.

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<<before the sun ever dies down>>
Actually, our sun is a main sequence star, and will therefor eventually become a "red giant" star, destroying the earth long before it runs out of fuel.
John Cowart

Dori writes:

The sun will last a few more million of years. I believe that to be time

Wrong by three orders of magnitude. * -- * PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something like corkscrews.

cowartmisc1@yahoo.com wrote:

before the sun ever dies down
Actually, our sun is a main sequence star, and will therefor eventually become a "red giant" star, destroying the earth long before it runs out of fuel.
John Cowart
I know.. any star has a limmited ammount of energy.. any kid learns that

in grade 8. The point is that the ammount of energy you collect does not affect the life of the star!

Paul Vader wrote:

Dori writes:
The sun will last a few more million of years. I believe that to be time
Wrong by three orders of magnitude. * The sun will give off energy for at least 500 more million years.. how

am I wrong?

Paul Vader wrote:

Dori writes:
The sun will last a few more million of years. I believe that to be time
Wrong by three orders of magnitude. *

The sun's life will probably be 12 billion or so.. but the last portion will not be useful as by then we would probably dead due to the suns fluctuations. The sun will give off energy for at least 500 more million years..
Anyway, point is that its a LONG time of .. good sun life.

In article , cowartmisc1@yahoo.com writes:

before the sun ever dies down
Actually, our sun is a main sequence star, and will therefor eventually become a "red giant" star, destroying the earth long before it runs out of fuel.
John Cowart

Which brings up an interesting problem. I hear figures of between half a billion and a billion years for the Sun to expand enough to boil the oceans and make life on earth inhospitable.
Yet, Alpha Centauri, which is 1.09 solar masses (read 9% more massive than our Sun) is estimated to be a billion years older, yet has the same color temperature (5800� K) and it's radius is 1.2 solar radiuses.
Now theory holds that a heavier star burns its fuel much faster so in addition to being a billion years older it should be much further along in it's evolution because of it's higher mass.
So I guess I'm suprised that it's only 1.2 solar Radiuses and I question if the Sun will really be all that much redder and all that much larger in a billion years.
Even a half billion years though is pretty much as long as multi-cellular life has existed on earth and in all likelihood far past the point where anything remotely resembling humanity will exist.
The Sun also loses mass as it ages, both mass lost in the solar wind and nuclear binding energy as it fuses hydrogen into helium, and I wonder how much mass loss this will amount to combined, and if the change that results in the earth's orbit from this mass loss might compensate for the increased solar flux to a degree.
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In article , Dori writes:

cowartmisc1@yahoo.com wrote: before the sun ever dies down
Actually, our sun is a main sequence star, and will therefor eventually become a "red giant" star, destroying the earth long before it runs out of fuel.
John Cowart
I know.. any star has a limmited ammount of energy.. any kid learns that in grade 8. The point is that the ammount of energy you collect does not affect the life of the star!

I have to believe the original post was intended as some sort of humor? I remember a video spoof about conserving gravity back in the eighties I think that was done in a "Newsreel" style. How we're all using up gravity and if we don't conserve it everything is going to float off the surface of the earth.
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<<Was this a joke?>>
Yes, it was obviously a parody of the type of frantic appeal frequently issued by the enviro-nazi movement.
Try not to be so serious...
John Cowart

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:58:32 -0500, Dori wrote:

Paul Vader wrote: Dori writes:
The sun will last a few more million of years. I believe that to be time
Wrong by three orders of magnitude. *
The sun's life will probably be 12 billion or so.. but the last portion will not be useful as by then we would probably dead due to the suns fluctuations. The sun will give off energy for at least 500 more million years..
Anyway, point is that its a LONG time of .. good sun life.

Let me know as soon as the sun goes red dwarf. I'll just wait for you guz's reply.
boB