Jackal Pack Grinds Teeth in Envy: Hydrogen Car Makes Own Fue

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The Car That Makes It's Own Fuel
A unique system that can produce Hydrogen inside a car using common metals such as Magnesium and Aluminum was developed by an Israeli company. The system solves all of the obstacles associated with the manufacturing, transporting and storing of hydrogen to be used in cars. When it becomes commercial in a few years time, the system will be incorporated into cars that will cost about the same as existing conventional cars to run, and will be completely emission free.
Illustration photo - The new system solves all of the obstacles associated with the manufacturing, transporting and storing of hydrogen to be used in cars.
As President Bush urges Americans to cut back on the use of oil in wake of the recent surge in prices, more and more people are looking for more viable alternatives to the use of petroleum as the main fuel for the automotive industry. IsraCast recently covered the idea developed at the Weizmann Institute to use pure Zinc to produce Hydrogen using solar power. Now, a different solution has been developed by an Israeli company called Engineuity. Amnon Yogev, one of the two founders of Engineuity, and a retired Professor of the Weizmann Institute, suggested a method for producing a continuous flow of Hydrogen and steam under full pressure inside a car. This method could also be used for producing hydrogen for fuel cells and other applications requiring hydrogen and/or steam.
The Hydrogen car Engineuity is working on will use metals such as Magnesium or Aluminum which will come in the form of a long coil. The gas tank in conventional vehicles will be replaced by a device called a Metal-Steam combustor that will separate Hydrogen out of heated water. The basic idea behind the technology is relatively simple: the tip of the metal coil is inserted into the Metal-Steam combustor together with water where it will be heated to very high temperatures. The metal atoms will bond to the Oxygen from the water, creating metal oxide. As a result, the Hydrogen molecules are free, and will be sent into the engine alongside the steam. The solid waste product of the process, in the form of metal oxide, will later be collected in the fuel station and recycled for further use by the metal industry.
Refuelling the car based on this technology will also be remarkably simple. The vehicle will contain a mechanism for rolling the metal wire into a coil during the process of fuelling and the spent metal oxide, which was produced in the previous phase, will be collected from the car by vacuum suction.

The energy to recover the pure metal from the recycled metal oxide obviously will be more than the energy coming from the metal-water reactor or whatever they call it but it might be better than 10,000 psi H2 tanks and a nationwide H2 distribution system.
Bret Cahill

How much is the metal going to weigh for a 300 mile trip?
Instead of 80 pounds of gasoline or 50 lbs of H2 you might need several hundred pounds of Al or Mg.
Bret Cahill

H2-PV NOW wrote:

http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage3773.html
The Car That Makes It's Own Fuel
A unique system that can produce Hydrogen inside a car using common metals such as Magnesium and Aluminum was developed by an Israeli company. The system solves all of the obstacles associated with the manufacturing, transporting and storing of hydrogen to be used in cars. When it becomes commercial in a few years time, the system will be incorporated into cars that will cost about the same as existing conventional cars to run, and will be completely emission free.
Illustration photo - The new system solves all of the obstacles associated with the manufacturing, transporting and storing of hydrogen to be used in cars.
As President Bush urges Americans to cut back on the use of oil in wake of the recent surge in prices, more and more people are looking for more viable alternatives to the use of petroleum as the main fuel for the automotive industry. IsraCast recently covered the idea developed at the Weizmann Institute to use pure Zinc to produce Hydrogen using solar power. Now, a different solution has been developed by an Israeli company called Engineuity. Amnon Yogev, one of the two founders of Engineuity, and a retired Professor of the Weizmann Institute, suggested a method for producing a continuous flow of Hydrogen and steam under full pressure inside a car. This method could also be used for producing hydrogen for fuel cells and other applications requiring hydrogen and/or steam.
The Hydrogen car Engineuity is working on will use metals such as Magnesium or Aluminum which will come in the form of a long coil. The gas tank in conventional vehicles will be replaced by a device called a Metal-Steam combustor that will separate Hydrogen out of heated water. The basic idea behind the technology is relatively simple: the tip of the metal coil is inserted into the Metal-Steam combustor together with water where it will be heated to very high temperatures. The metal atoms will bond to the Oxygen from the water, creating metal oxide. As a result, the Hydrogen molecules are free, and will be sent into the engine alongside the steam. The solid waste product of the process, in the form of metal oxide, will later be collected in the fuel station and recycled for further use by the metal industry.
Refuelling the car based on this technology will also be remarkably simple. The vehicle will contain a mechanism for rolling the metal wire into a coil during the process of fuelling and the spent metal oxide, which was produced in the previous phase, will be collected from the car by vacuum suction.

Just a variation on the Jed Checketts scheme that almost cost him a lot of money. He was scammed out of his company when they bought it from him for what appeared to be a good deal then but when reality set in he was out. He still believes in the viability of the NaH scheme to make hydrogen on demand. However he still doesn't get it that the energy costs to make the hydrogen are just too high and the hazard of carrying around hydrogen is daunting.
You are the worse because he was a nice guy but you are are mean spirited sob who doesn't know his bum from a hole in the ground. FK

fkasner wrote:

H2-PV NOW wrote: http://www.fuelcellsworks.com/Supppage3773.html
The Car That Makes It's Own Fuel
A unique system that can produce Hydrogen inside a car using common metals such as Magnesium and Aluminum was developed by an Israeli company. The system solves all of the obstacles associated with the manufacturing, transporting and storing of hydrogen to be used in cars. When it becomes commercial in a few years time, the system will be incorporated into cars that will cost about the same as existing conventional cars to run, and will be completely emission free.
Illustration photo - The new system solves all of the obstacles associated with the manufacturing, transporting and storing of hydrogen to be used in cars.
As President Bush urges Americans to cut back on the use of oil in wake of the recent surge in prices, more and more people are looking for more viable alternatives to the use of petroleum as the main fuel for the automotive industry. IsraCast recently covered the idea developed at the Weizmann Institute to use pure Zinc to produce Hydrogen using solar power. Now, a different solution has been developed by an Israeli company called Engineuity. Amnon Yogev, one of the two founders of Engineuity, and a retired Professor of the Weizmann Institute, suggested a method for producing a continuous flow of Hydrogen and steam under full pressure inside a car. This method could also be used for producing hydrogen for fuel cells and other applications requiring hydrogen and/or steam.
The Hydrogen car Engineuity is working on will use metals such as Magnesium or Aluminum which will come in the form of a long coil. The gas tank in conventional vehicles will be replaced by a device called a Metal-Steam combustor that will separate Hydrogen out of heated water. The basic idea behind the technology is relatively simple: the tip of the metal coil is inserted into the Metal-Steam combustor together with water where it will be heated to very high temperatures. The metal atoms will bond to the Oxygen from the water, creating metal oxide. As a result, the Hydrogen molecules are free, and will be sent into the engine alongside the steam. The solid waste product of the process, in the form of metal oxide, will later be collected in the fuel station and recycled for further use by the metal industry.
Refuelling the car based on this technology will also be remarkably simple. The vehicle will contain a mechanism for rolling the metal wire into a coil during the process of fuelling and the spent metal oxide, which was produced in the previous phase, will be collected from the car by vacuum suction.
Just a variation on the Jed Checketts scheme that almost cost him a lot of money. He was scammed out of his company when they bought it from him for what appeared to be a good deal then but when reality set in he was out. He still believes in the viability of the NaH scheme to make hydrogen on demand. However he still doesn't get it that the energy costs to make the hydrogen are just too high and the hazard of carrying around hydrogen is daunting.
You are the worse because he was a nice guy but you are are mean spirited sob who doesn't know his bum from a hole in the ground. FK

1,000,000 miles in Hydrogen Fuel Cell Buses in Europe. 1,000,000 fires in gasoline Ford Pintos in the USA. Stick with your nice safe gasoline Pinto, Luddite...
http://www.new-europe.info/new-europe/displaynews.asp?id=116926
Fuel-cell buses clock up a record 1 million km worldwide
Some 33 fuel-cell buses in major European cities have together clocked up a record one million kilometres, the DaimlerChrysler concern has announced.
"The buses have convincingly demonstrated the reliability and robustness of fuel-cell drive in various climate zones and topographies," said Professor Herbert Kohler, head of the Vehicle Body and Drive Systems Directorate of DaimlerChrysler.
The trials have given the developers valuable information for the extension of fuel-cell lifetimes, DaimlerChrysler said in a press statement. Fuel-cell lifetimes are well above expectations at 2,000 operating hours without any power losses.
"This brings fuel-cell lifetimes even closer to those of conventional gasoline and diesel engines," DaimlerChrysler said in a press statement. The Mercedes buses have been in operation in Amsterdam, Barcelona, Hamburg, London, Luxembourg, Madrid, Oporto, Stockholm and Stuttgart since the end of 2001 within the framework of the CUTE fuel-cell bus project supported by the European Union.
Three fuel-cell buses are also operating in Perth, the capital of Western Australia, and by the end of this year three Mercedes-Benz Citaros with fuel-cell drive will be on the streets of Beijing.

fkasner wrote:

You are the worse because he was a nice guy but you are are mean spirited sob who doesn't know his bum from a hole in the ground.

Someone who gets confused between burro and burrow.

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"hanson" writes: AHAHAHAHA..."The Car That Makes It's Own Fuel"... ahahahaha ... AHAHAHA..... ahahaha...."Awe Shit", listen.
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